Femeia moderna

Recent, am gasit pe un forum strain un subiect de discutie, din punctul meu de vedere, foarte interesant. Cum forumul este exclusiv pentru barbati, am cazut cu totii de acord asupra ideei prezentate, iar cum pe aici sunt si femei (vorbitoare si de limba engleza sper), sunt curios ce au de spus ele despre respectiva idee.
Mai jos redau integral si in original de la ce a pornit discutia:

"In today's society, women are treated as equals to men. They can vote, get a higher education and are respected in the working world. We've come a long way since the days where women were treated as delicate creatures, inferior to men, and made to dress up in corsettes and be paraded around by their fathers and husbands (In french we call it "la preciocité" or the age of preciosity). Still, women nowadys want men to be "gentleman." They want them to open their car door for them, hold the door for her, pick her up and drive her home, and pick up the check. This is what we call "chivalry," which carries the iconic image of the knight in shining armor saving the helpless damsel in distress and carrying her off on his white horse.

Here's what I think: Women can't have their cake and eat it too.

If they want to be respected in todays society, they need to let go of this image of women being treasures to be cherished by men. Granted, physical protection is an exception. But it really makes me feel like im stooping down if i were to open a car door for a women. Basically, I would never do anything for a woman that I wouldn't do for a guy friend, things out of sheer politeness. Would I hold the door for a woman? If I'm walking in front of her i wont drop the door on her, but i would do this for a stranger. Would i refill a woman's glass? If I was already refilling my own and had the pitcher in-hand. Because think about it. If you were with your guy friends, and you kept refilling their drinks, wouldn't it be super weird. What if you just refilled one of your guy friends glasses, but not the others. Even weirder. Would I open the car door for a guy friend? No. Why would I. He has hands, and so does a woman. I've also heard that a man should always walk on the side of the sidewalk closest to the street, so if a car were heading in that direction the man would get hit and not the woman. I would do this, but only because i value human life. The only people I'd unconsicously do this for would be my family. But the fact that the man is expected to do this every time sickens me. Why should a woman's life be worth protecting, and mine worth taking? I personally don't feel respected being the one to put myself in harms way, knowing the woman will probably never do it for me. I know i wont get hit by a car walking on the sidewalk, but it's the principle that bugs me. I would take a bullet for anyone in my family, and if you asked them they would probably do the same for me. But women expect this from men with nothing in return, and their only rationale is that "they're women and should be protected by men." By the way, I'm not counting the car example in physical protection because BOTH men and women are equally as vulnerable to being hit by a car.

I think women are taking way too much power, and trying to hold onto a stereotype because it makes life better for them, and makes men treat them like queens. Who wouldn't want to be treated like royalty? Tell me what you guys think. If someone has an opposing opinion I'd love to hear it."


So...doamnelor moderne, sunteti de acord cu ce spune baiatul asta?

Recent, am gasit pe un forum strain un subiect de discutie, din punctul meu de vedere, foarte interesant. Cum forumul este exclusiv pentru barbati, am cazut cu totii de acord asupra ideei prezentate, iar cum pe aici sunt si femei (vorbitoare si de limba engleza sper), sunt curios ce au de spus ele despre respectiva idee.
Mai jos redau integral si in original de la ce a pornit discutia:

"In today's society, women are treated as equals to men. They can vote, get a higher education and are respected in the working world. We've come a long way since the days where women were treated as delicate creatures, inferior to men, and made to dress up in corsettes and be paraded around by their fathers and husbands (In french we call it "la preciocité" or the age of preciosity). Still, women nowadys want men to be "gentleman." They want them to open their car door for them, hold the door for her, pick her up and drive her home, and pick up the check. This is what we call "chivalry," which carries the iconic image of the knight in shining armor saving the helpless damsel in distress and carrying her off on his white horse.

Here's what I think: Women can't have their cake and eat it too.

If they want to be respected in todays society, they need to let go of this image of women being treasures to be cherished by men. Granted, physical protection is an exception. But it really makes me feel like im stooping down if i were to open a car door for a women. Basically, I would never do anything for a woman that I wouldn't do for a guy friend, things out of sheer politeness. Would I hold the door for a woman? If I'm walking in front of her i wont drop the door on her, but i would do this for a stranger. Would i refill a woman's glass? If I was already refilling my own and had the pitcher in-hand. Because think about it. If you were with your guy friends, and you kept refilling their drinks, wouldn't it be super weird. What if you just refilled one of your guy friends glasses, but not the others. Even weirder. Would I open the car door for a guy friend? No. Why would I. He has hands, and so does a woman. I've also heard that a man should always walk on the side of the sidewalk closest to the street, so if a car were heading in that direction the man would get hit and not the woman. I would do this, but only because i value human life. The only people I'd unconsicously do this for would be my family. But the fact that the man is expected to do this every time sickens me. Why should a woman's life be worth protecting, and mine worth taking? I personally don't feel respected being the one to put myself in harms way, knowing the woman will probably never do it for me. I know i wont get hit by a car walking on the sidewalk, but it's the principle that bugs me. I would take a bullet for anyone in my family, and if you asked them they would probably do the same for me. But women expect this from men with nothing in return, and their only rationale is that "they're women and should be protected by men." By the way, I'm not counting the car example in physical protection because BOTH men and women are equally as vulnerable to being hit by a car.

I think women are taking way too much power, and trying to hold onto a stereotype because it makes life better for them, and makes men treat them like queens. Who wouldn't want to be treated like royalty? Tell me what you guys think. If someone has an opposing opinion I'd love to hear it."


So...doamnelor moderne, sunteti de acord cu ce spune baiatul asta?

Recent, am gasit pe un forum strain un subiect de discutie, din punctul meu de vedere, foarte interesant. Cum forumul este exclusiv pentru barbati, am cazut cu totii de acord asupra ideei prezentate, iar cum pe aici sunt si femei (vorbitoare si de limba engleza sper), sunt curios ce au de spus ele despre respectiva idee.
Mai jos redau integral si in original de la ce a pornit discutia:

"In today's society, women are treated as equals to men. They can vote, get a higher education and are respected in the working world. We've come a long way since the days where women were treated as delicate creatures, inferior to men, and made to dress up in corsettes and be paraded around by their fathers and husbands (In french we call it "la preciocité" or the age of preciosity). Still, women nowadys want men to be "gentleman." They want them to open their car door for them, hold the door for her, pick her up and drive her home, and pick up the check. This is what we call "chivalry," which carries the iconic image of the knight in shining armor saving the helpless damsel in distress and carrying her off on his white horse.

Here's what I think: Women can't have their cake and eat it too.

If they want to be respected in todays society, they need to let go of this image of women being treasures to be cherished by men. Granted, physical protection is an exception. But it really makes me feel like im stooping down if i were to open a car door for a women. Basically, I would never do anything for a woman that I wouldn't do for a guy friend, things out of sheer politeness. Would I hold the door for a woman? If I'm walking in front of her i wont drop the door on her, but i would do this for a stranger. Would i refill a woman's glass? If I was already refilling my own and had the pitcher in-hand. Because think about it. If you were with your guy friends, and you kept refilling their drinks, wouldn't it be super weird. What if you just refilled one of your guy friends glasses, but not the others. Even weirder. Would I open the car door for a guy friend? No. Why would I. He has hands, and so does a woman. I've also heard that a man should always walk on the side of the sidewalk closest to the street, so if a car were heading in that direction the man would get hit and not the woman. I would do this, but only because i value human life. The only people I'd unconsicously do this for would be my family. But the fact that the man is expected to do this every time sickens me. Why should a woman's life be worth protecting, and mine worth taking? I personally don't feel respected being the one to put myself in harms way, knowing the woman will probably never do it for me. I know i wont get hit by a car walking on the sidewalk, but it's the principle that bugs me. I would take a bullet for anyone in my family, and if you asked them they would probably do the same for me. But women expect this from men with nothing in return, and their only rationale is that "they're women and should be protected by men." By the way, I'm not counting the car example in physical protection because BOTH men and women are equally as vulnerable to being hit by a car.

I think women are taking way too much power, and trying to hold onto a stereotype because it makes life better for them, and makes men treat them like queens. Who wouldn't want to be treated like royalty? Tell me what you guys think. If someone has an opposing opinion I'd love to hear it."


So...doamnelor moderne, sunteti de acord cu ce spune baiatul asta?